Pat Cipollone, former President Trumps White House counsel, walks into a conference room after a break in his interview at the Thomas P. O’Neill Jr. House Office Building July 8, 2022 in Washington, DC.
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- Former White House counsel Pat Cipollone testified before the January 6 committee on Friday.
- Rep. Zoe Lofgren said that he “did not contradict” previous witnesses, and the committee had “learned a few things.”
- The panel subpoenaed Cipollone last week following Cassidy Hutchinson’s bombshell testimony.
Former White House counsel Pat Cipollone “did not contradict” testimony of previous witnesses when he appeared on Friday before the House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, Capitol attack, Rep. Zoe Lofgren said.
Lofgren, a Democratic congresswoman and member of the panel, told CNN that the committee had also “learned a few things” after interviewing Cipollone for nearly eight hours.
The congresswoman said details of Cipollone’s testimony would be rolled out in upcoming hearings.
Lofgren noted that Cipollone appeared voluntarily and said that he answered various questions in a candid, careful, and honest way.
However, she noted that just because he did not contradict previous testimony, it did not mean he confirmed all of it, particularly Cassidy Hutchinson’s bombshell testimony.
Lofgren said that there were situations in which Cipollone was not present or “couldn’t recall with precision.”
Cipollone, a sought-after witness for the panel, was reported to have expressed concerns about then-President Donald Trump’s actions around January 6 and resisted schemes to overturn the 2020 election.
Cipollone was subpoenaed by the panel last week following Hutchinson’s testimony, after having already spoken with the committee during an informal interview in April.
Hutchinson said in her testimony that Cipollone warned that Trump would be charged with “every crime imaginable” if he went to the Capitol on January 6, 2021, along with thousands of protesters.
It was reported earlier this month that Cipollone was in talks to testify about the riot publicly. He indicated that his testimony revolved around Jeffrey Clark, a former top Justice Department official, who used his position to aid Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election, it is alleged.
Legal experts previously told Insider’s Camila DeChalus that Cipollone’s first-hand account of whether Trump was aware that he was potentially engaging in criminal activity could strengthen a case against him by the Justice Department.
Trump has criticized Cipollone’s testifying in front of the panel, arguing that it could discourage future presidents from having “candid” conversations with a White House counsel.
“Why would a future President of the United States want to have candid and important conversations with his White House Counsel if he thought there was even a small chance that this person, essentially acting as a ‘lawyer’ for the Country, may some day be brought before a partisan and openly hostile Committee in Congress,” Trump wrote on his social-media platform, Truth Social, on Wednesday.
“So bad for the USA!” he said.